| I think you may have taken this too far. I believe it was number two. 2) They were aware of the effects but performed the test anyway. So they could get a better idea how the manifold would improve the performance of the system. Your intercooler question: Say you want to flowtest an intercooler. Would you connect just the single component of the intercooler itself to the flowbench or would you attach the 22-some-odd feet of intake piping to it as well? I would enjoy seeing both tests (with the piping and without). Of course, I would like to see how your massive ICs flow compared to stock IC's alone. And on top of that I would like to see how both the stock ICs and your massive IC's (and all other popular after market IC's) perform on both the stock piping and an oversized diameter piping set. You can't use the IC's alone anymore than you can the manifolds. The idea is eliminating bottle necks in the system and tests like the one you seem intent devaluing allow us to find them and work to eliminate them. nixit's chart shows you can have the greatest manifolds in the world but look how much a stock head and valves (yes, the original MS testing was done on a bone stock head) prohibits flow to that manifold (causing diminishing returns in the manifold testing). So, before someone should get all worked up on a few cfm differences in the best performing manifolds you should look at what you can do to improve other bottlenecks in the system (in the example the immediately upstream head). Everyone agrees with you that pure flow numbers for each component would be very valuable and are anxiously awaiting your results (at least I know I am) but I am not sure what you hope to achieve by continuing this argument that testing with upstream components is of litte to no value (or flawed, inaccurate, incomplete).
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